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I came across a website by a Russian woman who believes herself to be an aficionado of Western women. Well, as a lover of Western women, these strong independant beauties who won't take crap from anyone, I felt I had to respond to her propoganda.

*Russian Bride text is in black

*My opionions are in blue

Are Russian women's personalities different from Western women?

Yes, they are a bit different. They don't have a different type of character, and they also love shopping and chatting. They are human beings and they are definitely not perfect. The main difference is that they are much more patient and can tolerate things that Western women will never be able to bear.

This statement has some truth to it. Western women have a low tolerance for men who not only want a wife but a maid, slave, and basically a mother. However, it’s not as though we are unable to “bear” this behaviour from men, it’s that Western women refuse to tolerate it. If Western women want children to look after, they have children who start out as babies and grow into adults, not adult men who behave as infants.

Western women want men in their lives who behave as independent human beings not over grown demanding children. Men who behave as such are often told to “Go home to Mommy” by Western women. If Russian women began to be less tolerant perhaps their male population would have no choice but to change and become more appealing to them.

(Russian women) They are more considerate and dependable.

Western women are considerate and dependable when their spouses behave in a considerate and dependable manner. If the “man of the house” is out boozing with the boys every night and coming home smelling of perfume you can depend on the Western woman to throw his sorry ass out the door. She will also throw his clothes out the window and onto the front lawn, after all, she is considerate and doesn’t want him to run bare arsed through the neighbourhood scaring the local children.

They are partners, not competitors.

I can’t even begin to understand this statement. I can only imagine that it is meant to say that Western women will enter into a relationship as a 50/50 partnership and if that evolves into something not quite so balanced that she will stand up to her spouse and demand fairness. This could be misconstrued as being competitive, however, in Western civilization it’s simply called equality.

Another important difference is that Russian women (and Russians in general) have very low self-esteem. They are very insecure.

This could be a strong selling point to a certain group of Western men who enjoy the power associated with manipulation of people in general. Usually a man who also has low self-esteem and is very insecure is empowered by having a woman in his life who he can lord himself over. This is an all round disturbing statement, especially as it’s used as a selling point. I love women who feel good about themselves and are with me because they want to be, not because they need to be. Needs change after all.

While Western women think that they are goddesses and able to cope with anything on their own, a Russian woman (living in Russia and married to a Russian man) will rarely leave a bad (really BAD) husband because of the fear that she won't find another one.

Goddesses? Ok that’s just funny. I believe many Western woman I know to be "Goddesses", but if I actually told them that they would laugh out loud at me. They are independant but very few are so arrogant to believe such a thing.

But the statement regarding being able to cope with anything on their own has me puzzled. The writer states this as if it is a negative thing! Of course! Why wouldn’t a Western woman be able to cope on her own? Cope with what exactly? Working, paying bills having a life and friends? I don’t understand what the problem is. Again, there is a sad truth to the above statement, Russian women will only leave a really bad husband for fear she won’t find another one. When Western women find themselves at the end of a bad relationship their biggest fear is becoming involved with another man and will often take a year or two off the entire dating scene just to re-group and become mentally strong.

For many years the state and men have been oppressing them, and they don't think much about themselves.

This says a lot about the Western men who actively seek out such women. They can be the “saviors” of these women, and the women would owe them for the rest of their lives. Scary thought. It sounds like Russian men need a couple of years in charm school or a good swift kick in the pants.

Russian women are well groomed, stylish, educated and intelligent (as are Russians in general) also diets and sports are not as popular as in the west. Nevertheless, they are rarely overweight - they still walk a lot because they don't have cars, and don't eat junk food (which is strange enough is considered expensive - compared to home made meals). They do not have to make an effort to live healthy - it just comes natural.

Who believes they are the Goddess now? It sounds as though Russian women are the model of physical fitness and beauty, it’s too bad the author has stated many times over that they are mentally and emotionally weak and totally dependant on having a husband in order to feel whole.

The greatest difference between Russian women and western women is precisely captured by linguistics: in English you call it, "to share your life with" and in Russian they call it, "to join our lives together". Where you will often find a western woman being a competitor in a relationship, a Russian woman is a partner.

When “two become one” is also what Westerners call it when they wed. Which is the same as “to join our lives together”. Nice try but this just doesn’t stick. Again this competitor comment comes up. If you are truly equals in a relationship there is no need for competition. If Russian woman see a competitive nature in Western women it’s simply because the Russian woman does not understand what it is to be a confident and strong human being – its obvious how this could be confused with “competitiveness”…sort of.

I am not selling you a "docile, submissive Russian bride".

Well that’s a relief, I think selling any kind of bride, docile or “shrew like” is against the law and called prostitution or white slavery, depending on the amount of laundry involved.

I am telling what is the difference in character between Russian women living in Russia and western women living in the west.

Yes, I managed to get your drift about five paragraphs ago, but I assume you are writing for the below average Western man so its very astute of you to reiterate. The rest of us caught your drift right at the very beginning.

There is also a difference between western men living in the west and Russian men living in Russia (and I am certainly not a big fond of the patriarchal, chauvinistic Russian family model).

There is also a difference between western men living in the west and Afghanistan men living in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabian men living in the middle east, etc. There are chauvinists all over the world. Most Western men who actively seek out insecure women with low self esteem are exactly that – chauvinists.

You live in a certain society and you become a part of this society, whether you want it or not. Russian women living abroad are different from Russian women living in Russia.

In what way? Please, do tell...

Russian women change when they move abroad, and western demographics is very different from Russian (where they have only 87 men for 100 women).

So, Russian women have a better chance of finding another husband after they leave their “savior and meal ticket” chauvinist husband who helped them escape from their country in the first place?

Some things stay the same, some things change. I know I have changed a lot living in the west. Part of it was simply growing as a person, but a great deal was due to the different culture. This is to be expected.

Such as….what?

Being insecure doesn't mean being submissive. You probably know many people with low self-esteem who are insecure but they are certainly not submissive.

True, I know a lot of neurotic people, male and female who are not submissive. They’re still annoying but then again, I can’t abide weakness in either sex.

Some reporters pull a phrase out of my writings, take it out of the context, and then happily announce, "Look how they taut those poor Russian brides" (not that there is anything wrong with those reporters; they just have to have "an angle" to their story, and this one sells better).

Out of context? Um, lets see…this is what you’ve taught this reader from your statements. Russian women are; insecure, suffer from low self esteem, would rather marry men they hardly know in the West to escape their own country rather than remaining behind and attempting to make change. Russian women will stay in an abusive relationship as they fear being without a husband. After all of this I’m getting the same idea as the reporters "Look how they taut those poor Russian brides" – whatever that’s supposed to mean.

This reminds me of the times they taught us in Soviet Russia that western employees were mercilessly exploited by greedy capitalists. You may laugh at it, but we grew up feeling very sorry for you guys, who were so mercilessly exploited, and very happy for the fact that we were born in Soviet Union. I am NOT joking!

Ah, Soviet propaganda at its finest! Why would anyone laugh at this? Its nice to know that pity was felt for Westerners by women who are desperate to escape their own country and men who like to beat their wives as a hobby. Strange, I never felt sorry for “you guys” (Russian men and women) until I read your “article”. I’m glad you’re not joking because if you were I’d say you left your sense of humour back in the motherland.

I have a personal experience of living through the process of finding a foreign husband, and I see my own marriage to a western man as liberation, which it certainly was if you compare the level of freedom in post-Soviet Russia and in the west with its centuries-old democratic traditions.

Western women call the “process” of finding a husband “the search for love” and the end result hopefully being a fulfilled life. As a matter of fact I’ve never heard the words “I’m in the process of finding a husband” come from a Western woman’s mouth. .

While some reporters enjoy speculating about "men buying women - women selling themselves", this is just as valid a description as "exploiter-exploited" for employer-employee relationship. If you ever had a job, or hired someone to work for you, who was the one who won out of your arrangement? I guess both sides won, although sometimes the situation is more beneficial for the employer, and sometimes for the employee.

Yes, these reporters have it wrong. Its more of a case of “Desperate Western men who fear strong women fall in love with Russian woman’s picture on internet, gets fleeced a dozen times by corrupt scam artists (go scam artists – these men get what they deserve!), finally meets a real Russian women desperate to get out of a country and away from Russian Barbarian men” and they live happily ever after - until her green card comes through and then she dumps him for his better looking and older business partner. (True story from an acquaintance of mine - the pig deserved everything he got.)

This is why I believe that the majority of Russian women will be better off marrying a western man than if they married a Russian man living in Russia - and this is why I am doing what I am doing.

I can definitely see a positive slant to this. Perhaps if Russia’s greatest export continues to be its females (next to Agricultural Raw Materials, Oil, mineral goods and wood products) its males will be forced to evolve and become the type of partners a woman would want to spend their lives with.

Unfortunately, it seems that the type of man who orders a mail order bride is the type of man no Western woman would touch with a ten foot pole. The whole thing makes Russian women look like desperate bottom feeders – simply put ladies, and excuse the bluntess of my opinion, but, the Western men you end up with are the ones Western women would never want and if they’re better than your Russian men – then the situation in Russia is more pathetic than its ever been reported on CNN. Thank you for the insight.

For the people who talk about abuse of "mail order brides", I suggest you check the figures of Amnesty International showing that in Russia about 14,000 women are MURDERED every year by their husbands or intimate partners (one Russian woman dies from domestic violence every 40 minutes). In the U.S.A., by comparison, this figure stands at 1,200 a year (the population of Russia is 144 million, the population of the U.S.A. is 293 million). Now, tell me where a Russian woman will be better off - in Russia where police often won't even accept complaints about physical abuse against one's partner, or in America where a patrol will be immediately sent to regulate any home-based dispute, and appropriate measures taken?

Point taken, however I would like to suggest another idea!

A Russian woman would be better off to immigrate to North America or Western Europe on her own and make her own life, fall in love with a nice man and have a family. If she did this, on her own, her self esteem would rise considerably and her insecurities would be no more. She wouldn’t have to depend on a “man” to rescue her from this apparently tragic country.

Ps. does any nice Russian woman want to send me $1400.00 for plane tickets, Visa and expenses...I want to come desperately to Russia to be treated like a real man...that, my dear, was a joke.


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A Russian Bride explains why Russian women are better than North American Women! And starts a business helping other Western males find the love of their lives! Capitalism at its weirdest! I came across a website by a Russian woman who believes herself to be an aficionado of Western women. Well, as a lover of Western women, these strong independant beauties who won't take crap from anyone, I felt I had to respond to her propoganda. Russian Bride text is in black My opionions are in blue Are Russian women's personalities different from Western women? Yes, they are a bit different. They don't have a different type of character, and they also love shopping and chatting. They are human beings and they are definitely not perfect. *The main difference is that they are much more patient and can tolerate things that Western women will never be able to bear.* This statement has some truth to it. Western women have a low tolerance for men who not only want a wife but a maid, slave, and basically a mother. However, it’s not as though we are unable to “bear” this behaviour from men, it’s that Western women refuse to tolerate it. If Western women want children to look after, they have children who start out as babies and grow into adults, not adult men who behave as infants. Western women want men in their lives who behave as independent human beings not over grown demanding children. Men who behave as such are often told to “Go home to Mommy” by Western women. If Russian women began to be less tolerant perhaps their male population would have no choice but to change and become more appealing to them. *(Russian women) They are more considerate and dependable.* Western women are considerate and dependable when their spouses behave in a considerate and dependable manner. If the “man of the house” is out boozing with the boys every night and coming home smelling of perfume you can depend on the Western woman to throw his sorry ass out the door. She will also throw his clothes out the window and onto the front lawn, after all, she is considerate and doesn’t want him to run bare arsed through the neighbourhood scaring the local children. *They are partners, not competitors.* I can’t even begin to understand this statement. I can only imagine that it is meant to say that Western women will enter into a relationship as a 50/50 partnership and if that evolves into something not quite so balanced that she will stand up to her spouse and demand fairness. This could be misconstrued as being competitive, however, in Western civilization it’s simply called equality. Another important difference is that Russian women (and Russians in general) have very low self-esteem. They are very insecure. This could be a strong selling point to a certain group of Western men who enjoy the power associated with manipulation of people in general. Usually a man who also has low self-esteem and is very insecure is empowered by having a woman in his life who he can lord himself over. This is an all round disturbing statement, especially as it’s used as a selling point. I love women who feel good about themselves and are with me because they want to be, not because they need to be. Needs change after all. While Western women think that they are goddesses and able to cope with anything on their own, a Russian woman (living in Russia and married to a Russian man) will rarely leave a bad (really BAD) husband because of the fear that she won't find another one. Goddesses? Ok that’s just funny. I believe many Western woman I know to be "Goddesses", but if I actually told them that they would laugh out loud at me. They are independant but very few are so arrogant to believe such a thing. But the statement regarding being able to cope with anything on their own has me puzzled. The writer states this as if it is a negative thing! Of course! Why wouldn’t a Western woman be able to cope on her own? Cope with what exactly? Working, paying bills having a life and friends? I don’t understand what the problem is. Again, there is a sad truth to the above statement, Russian women will only leave a really bad husband for fear she won’t find another one. When Western women find themselves at the end of a bad relationship their biggest fear is becoming involved with another man and will often take a year or two off the entire dating scene just to re-group and become mentally strong. For many years the state and men have been oppressing them, and they don't think much about themselves. This says a lot about the Western men who actively seek out such women. They can be the “saviors” of these women, and the women would owe them for the rest of their lives. Scary thought. It sounds like Russian men need a couple of years in charm school or a good swift kick in the pants. Russian women are well groomed, stylish, educated and intelligent (as are Russians in general) also diets and sports are not as popular as in the west. Nevertheless, they are rarely overweight - they still walk a lot because they don't have cars, and don't eat junk food (which is strange enough is considered expensive - compared to home made meals). They do not have to make an effort to live healthy - it just comes natural. Who believes they are the Goddess now? It sounds as though Russian women are the model of physical fitness and beauty, it’s too bad the author has stated many times over that they are mentally and emotionally weak and totally dependant on having a husband in order to feel whole. The greatest difference between Russian women and western women is precisely captured by linguistics: in English you call it, "to share your life with" and in Russian they call it, "to join our lives together". Where you will often find a western woman being a competitor in a relationship, a Russian woman is a partner. When “two become one” is also what Westerners call it when they wed. Which is the same as “to join our lives together”. Nice try but this just doesn’t stick. Again this competitor comment comes up. If you are truly equals in a relationship there is no need for competition. If Russian woman see a competitive nature in Western women it’s simply because the Russian woman does not understand what it is to be a confident and strong human being – its obvious how this could be confused with “competitiveness”…sort of. I am not selling you a "docile, submissive Russian bride". Well that’s a relief, I think selling any kind of bride, docile or “shrew like” is against the law and called prostitution or white slavery, depending on the amount of laundry involved. I am telling what is the difference in character between Russian women living in Russia and western women living in the west. Yes, I managed to get your drift about five paragraphs ago, but I assume you are writing for the below average Western man so its very astute of you to reiterate. The rest of us caught your drift right at the very beginning. There is also a difference between western men living in the west and Russian men living in Russia (and I am certainly not a big fond of the patriarchal, chauvinistic Russian family model). There is also a difference between western men living in the west and Afghanistan men living in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabian men living in the middle east, etc. There are chauvinists all over the world. Most Western men who actively seek out insecure women with low self esteem are exactly that – chauvinists. You live in a certain society and you become a part of this society, whether you want it or not. Russian women living abroad are different from Russian women living in Russia. In what way? Please, do tell... Russian women change when they move abroad, and western demographics is very different from Russian (where they have only 87 men for 100 women). So, Russian women have a better chance of finding another husband after they leave their “savior and meal ticket” chauvinist husband who helped them escape from their country in the first place? Some things stay the same, some things change. I know I have changed a lot living in the west. Part of it was simply growing as a person, but a great deal was due to the different culture. This is to be expected. Such as….what? Being insecure doesn't mean being submissive. You probably know many people with low self-esteem who are insecure but they are certainly not submissive. True, I know a lot of neurotic people, male and female who are not submissive. They’re still annoying but then again, I can’t abide weakness in either sex. Some reporters pull a phrase out of my writings, take it out of the context, and then happily announce, "Look how they taut those poor Russian brides" (not that there is anything wrong with those reporters; they just have to have "an angle" to their story, and this one sells better). Out of context? Um, lets see…this is what you’ve taught this reader from your statements. Russian women are; insecure, suffer from low self esteem, would rather marry men they hardly know in the West to escape their own country rather than remaining behind and attempting to make change. Russian women will stay in an abusive relationship as they fear being without a husband. After all of this I’m getting the same idea as the reporters "Look how they taut those poor Russian brides" – whatever that’s supposed to mean. This reminds me of the times they taught us in Soviet Russia that western employees were mercilessly exploited by greedy capitalists. You may laugh at it, but we grew up feeling very sorry for you guys, who were so mercilessly exploited, and very happy for the fact that we were born in Soviet Union. I am NOT joking! Ah, Soviet propaganda at its finest! Why would anyone laugh at this? Its nice to know that pity was felt for Westerners by women who are desperate to escape their own country and men who like to beat their wives as a hobby. Strange, I never felt sorry for “you guys” (Russian men and women) until I read your “article”. I’m glad you’re not joking because if you were I’d say you left your sense of humour back in the motherland. I have a personal experience of living through the process of finding a foreign husband, and I see my own marriage to a western man as liberation, which it certainly was if you compare the level of freedom in post-Soviet Russia and in the west with its centuries-old democratic traditions. Western women call the “process” of finding a husband “the search for love” and the end result hopefully being a fulfilled life. As a matter of fact I’ve never heard the words “I’m in the process of finding a husband” come from a Western woman’s mouth. . While some reporters enjoy speculating about "men buying women - women selling themselves", this is just as valid a description as "exploiter-exploited" for employer-employee relationship. If you ever had a job, or hired someone to work for you, who was the one who won out of your arrangement? I guess both sides won, although sometimes the situation is more beneficial for the employer, and sometimes for the employee. Yes, these reporters have it wrong. Its more of a case of “Desperate Western men who fear strong women fall in love with Russian woman’s picture on internet, gets fleeced a dozen times by corrupt scam artists (go scam artists – these men get what they deserve!), finally meets a real Russian women desperate to get out of a country and away from Russian Barbarian men” and they live happily ever after - until her green card comes through and then she dumps him for his better looking and older business partner. (True story from an acquaintance of mine - the pig deserved everything he got.) *This is why I believe that the majority of Russian women will be better off marrying a western man than if they married a Russian man living in* *Russia* *- and this is why I am doing what I am doing.* I can definitely see a positive slant to this. Perhaps if Russia’s greatest export continues to be its females (next to Agricultural Raw Materials, Oil, mineral goods and wood products) its males will be forced to evolve and become the type of partners a woman would want to spend their lives with. Unfortunately, it seems that the type of man who orders a mail order bride is the type of man no Western woman would touch with a ten foot pole. The whole thing makes Russian women look like desperate bottom feeders – simply put ladies, and excuse the bluntess of my opinion, but, the Western men you end up with are the ones Western women would never want and if they’re better than your Russian men – then the situation in Russia is more pathetic than its ever been reported on CNN. Thank you for the insight. For the people who talk about abuse of "mail order brides", I suggest you check the figures of Amnesty International showing that in Russia about 14,000 women are MURDERED every year by their husbands or intimate partners (one Russian woman dies from domestic violence every 40 minutes). In the U.S.A., by comparison, this figure stands at 1,200 a year (the population of Russia is 144 million, the population of the U.S.A. is 293 million). Now, tell me where a Russian woman will be better off - in Russia where police often won't even accept complaints about physical abuse against one's partner, or in America where a patrol will be immediately sent to regulate any home-based dispute, and appropriate measures taken? Point taken, however I would like to suggest another idea! A Russian woman would be better off to immigrate to North America or Western Europe on her own and make her own life, fall in love with a nice man and have a family. If she did this, on her own, her self esteem would rise considerably and her insecurities would be no more. She wouldn’t have to depend on a “man” to rescue her from this apparently tragic country. Ps. does any nice Russian woman want to send me $1400.00 for plane tickets, Visa and expenses...I want to come desperately to Russia to be treated like a real man...that, my dear, was a joke. Have an opinion? Give me yours! I post them all!